Though it is a known fact that no matter what type of lock you use
the very determined bicycle thieves will still have a way to destroy the
lock.

As most of us are new to using better quality bicycle lock perhaps we
should share our experiences using them.

There are U locks, then the chain type etc, what type is suitable for what
purpose?

Thieves used various types of cutters depending on the type of locks
you used when they want to steal your bike. Is there any type of lock
that would make it almost impossible to cut even with a huge cutter if
the thieves care to take along for the job?

Kindly share your experiences.

:thanks:

I am sure some of the more experienced riders here could help
and that include members who are LBS owners.

Is it too difficult to share some of the good things in the bicycling
environment with others?

:good:

:anyone:

Hey Patrick,

i think you have answered your own question:

"Though it is a known fact that no matter what type of lock you use
the very determined bicycle thieves will still have a way to destroy the
lock."

Sure there are locks/chains that are close to impossible to cut/pick, but these usually come with a weight penalty;

e.g. if i have to ride around with a 2-3kg lock/chain combo, i'd rather plan my day such that i need not leave my bike unattended.

or if you really really need to, use bisag. oops, :knock: blatant :knock: advertising :knock:

ya, it's really pointless to have a bike lock. definitely useless in Singapore. Even if you could lock your bike with most powerful lock, the theives are gonna take away your mavic wheels, xtr/ or x.o rear d, cranks, stem, suspension fork & many parts just by a pocket tool... trust me on this. it takes a few mins to take the fork away.

yes, BIASG i proposed. :hehe: Jason will take good care of your bike when you are in town.

don't lock your bike outside...

even if nobody takes your stuff....

you never know. even i might be tempted, thats IF you have king hubs. anything else.. bah!

[QUOTE=skysig,Oct 23 2006, 01:51 PM][/QUOTE]
Hey Patrick,

Sure there are locks/chains that are close to impossible to cut/pick, but these usually come with a weight penalty;

e.g. if i have to ride around with a 2-3kg lock/chain combo, i'd rather plan my day such that i need not leave my bike unattended.

or if you really really need to, use bisag. oops, :knock: blatant :knock: advertising :knock:[/QUOTE]
Sometimes you need to park your bike outside MacDonald's, hawker centres,
shopping mall or the toilet for a while to do the things you want to do. It is not
safe to leave it there unlocked. Bringing along a heavy lock along while you
are going out cycling is not so practical.

Perhaps a small little lock for the crank will deter thieves who just rush off with
your bike right in front of you in broad daylight. This lock will stop anyone from
cycling your bike away.



What do you think?


:)

Good idea

You can get a few of them with different design to lock other parts of
the bike too. These small size locks are not heavy and comes in different
colours. Look around at the value stores in HDB estates and around Bugis
and OG Centre opposite Sim Lim Square.

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I do my best to prevent the same
happening again when I am in pain and turmoil
especially after losing the bike I love.

:clap: :)

small padlock for the front rotor sounds fun.

i will not choose to ride alone. even if i need to, i will plan my route & what to do list etc. in the event if i need to get to a toilet, i will bring my bike in. did that before. :hehe:

The popular adage goes, "your lock is only as strong as your weakest link." Bike locks will foil thieves for a while but the sheer audacity of bike thieves nowadays only proves how relevant that saying goes. Some are know to ago around with bolt cutters that can even literally cut through a ships anchor chain. Prevention is better than cure. Alaways have your bike by your side and never leave it out of your site. If you must park your bike somewhere, get a rusty old bike and use that as a commuter bike. Parking a souped-up bike next to the MRT for example is just asking for trouble.

after my incident. i will not lock my bike bike anywhere. even outside my door. now even i ride to work i will park the whole bike in the resturant. no lock is unbreakable.

patrick, i won't mind carrying you bike away if your bike is not lock on to anything. :hehe:

The suggestion is for those who need to do some urgent errands and need to leave
your bike for around five minutes.

Thieves with even a professional 42inch Ridgid S42 bolt cutter that weighs a mere
20lbs would take some time to cut a 9mm hardened stainless steel shackle pad lock.
The thicker and stronger the padlock the longer the time needed to cut the lock.
So a better quality padlock like the Abus 37/60 Granite or the Montery Security
shackle lock can prevent your bike being riden away.

They would have to carry your bike away with a padlock on the crank area.

:)

An example of a stainless steel shackle padlock. It is not easy to cut this
padlock which comes in different sizes (from 6mm onwards). Do not use the
ordinary tiny padlock because a 12inch bolt cutter will damage it in less than
a minute.

The design of the stainless steel shackle padlock makes it difficult for even a
pro bolt cutter to do its job easily. When you have two such locks on your bike,
potential thieves will think twice about cutting them because it takes time to do
the job. If they are determined to steal your bike they'll have to carry it away
instead. So have another thick stainless steel chainlock to attach your frame
to some railings, lamppost, a tree trunk etc.

You can have one extra lock for the disc brake as well.



:)

Putting a lock on e disc will only bring on a warped disc if anyone move the bike. Disc happens to b one of the weakest part of a bike, IMO.
Of cos a warped disc is better den a lost ride, still, there r other ways to lock up lor.

In e old days, there used to b this noisy bike alarm. It's bolted to the bike, n once activated, any slight movement of the bike will trigger a irritating alarm. Abit like those in cars.
With this, maybe locking the bike for short period in a crowded open space should b safer.

Just in case you guys missed my reply in the last post, don't mind if I repeat myself again.

My 2 cents worth:
- Do not lock your bicycles outdoors (staircase landings, void decks, even outside your door).
- Get a good lock if you have to lock it outside. Although the lock may look ugly/heavy/bulky but the culprit will need a longer time to cut the lock. This deters the culprit and makes him/her think twice before committing the act.
- Make sure you secure your whole bike. Don't just lock your wheels. Your cable should be long enough to go round your bicycle.
- Do not leave expensive accessories on your bicycle if you are locking it outside.
- Make your own specific markings on your bicycle. Make sure your bicycle differ from others who have the same brand/model/cooler bicycle as yours.
- Can check with your Neighborhood Police Centre/Post for engraving facilities.
- If your bicycle is stolen, make a police report (NP 299) immediately. There might be a series of theft of bicycles around your neighborhood for all you know. Your information will assist the police in solving the case faster. Make sure you include the descriptions of your special markings in the police report. If possible, take a photo of your bicycle (General view and close-up) after you have any upgrades. It may be a hassle but hey, save your bicycle, save others as well.
- If you see someone else riding your stolen bicycle and you can confirm that the bicycle belongs to you, do not engage the rider. He might have bought it from a 2nd hand shop. Follow the rider while maintaining a distance. Notify the police and update them on your current location. Let the police interview the subject.

Prevention is better than deterance. Deterance is better than cure.
U locks are highly NOT recommended. I myself can open a U lock with a hammer. No need cutter. If you got a solid lock and they can cut it with a snap, that would be bad. However, the culprits would need a bigger cutter to do such a job.

If you got those bunch of thick wires twirl inside the cable, that would be useful cos he can't cut it in a snap. He will have to cut thru the many layers which is a hassle and time wasting. To culprits, time is of the essence. They would choose something they can take and go.

Prevention is better than deterance. Deterance is better than cure.

Best solution: Bring your bicycle indoors.
Just my 2 cents worth. Feel free to ask me any questions. I will advice as per my knowledge.

DO NOT LEAVE YOUR BICYCLES UNATTENDED. THAT GOES THE SAME FOR YOUR PERSONAL BELONGINGS.

All the above information are based on my knowledge and past experience as a police officer. Hope it helps. :sweat:

Bicycle Theft is a problem almost everywhere in the world in cities like
New York, Boston including our little island of Singapore. The preventive measures
are only act upon first by the owners and secondly by the state authorities.

Since the registration of bicycles had been done with many years ago, there
is an increase in bike theft and right now the only way is for owners to be more
vigilant in handling their bikes.

Thieves can attack in the following methods:

1. Using pro bolt cutters

2. Using hacksaws to hack

3. Grinding with an angle grinder

4. Hammering away a weak padlock with spike and hammer

5. Using a pry bar to pry open a weak chain or padlock

All the above methods can be done by one person and usually when the thieves
are in a hurry, they can ride the bike away in less than three minutes including
keeping their tools back into their sling bag.

However with thicker good quality stainless steel shackle U-locks and padlocks
the thieves just would not be doing their business. Keep in mind you also can
camouflage your bike with tapes and stickers or other materials if you don,t
want others to know the two thousand dollar bike you are riding.

:blink: B)

last time i left my bike outside for about 2 hours i used 3 locks..
1 for the front wheel
1 for the back wheel
1 for the frame...

that seemed to stop ppl from stealing..

and to share a story of my own:
last week as i was riding through orchard to head to somerset i saw a guy nervously playing with a lock on a bike... i decided to stop and see wether the bike was actually his.. after he kept playing with the lock for 10 minutes i figured he was stealing it so i walked up to him and told him that if he stole it i would report him to the police... afterwards he walked away..

i dont quite remember exactly what bike but it was a GT... hope i helped someone out there...


cheers
rolando :D

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http://forums.vr-zone.com/showthread.php?t=8330


Theft deterrance: If you've no lock and have to leave your bike alone for a few minutes, you can do one or all of these:

1) With your chain on the largest chainring (the front gear part thingy), shift so that the front derailluer (the front shifting thingy) would move to the smallest chainring. But do this WITHOUT pedalling.

Anyone who tries to cycle off would have to kick the pedals into position first, and this would render the chain jumping off the gears and getting stuck between the bike frame and smallest chainring. This effectively makes your bike unridable.

2) If you are using V brakes, disengage the front and rear brakes. This can be done by pressing both sides of the brake arms together and unhooking the brake cable from its holder. Anyone trying to cycle off with your bike will be in for a nasty shock when he finds out that he can't brake!

3) Unscrew the knob on your brake levers just enough so that it backs out without being disengaged from the rest of the brake lever body. This tightens your brakes. Meaning, it'll only require very little finger movement to give a heckuva powerful stopping power! This should give the person a rude shock as well! :happy:

4) If you are using quick release skewers on your wheels, unscrew the front skewers out and rest the front fork ends on the skewer rod. This should give the illusion that the front wheel is still attached to the fork, but the moment the would-be thief tries to cycle off, the fork would slip off the skewers and give da fella another shock. Hurhurhur...

^^ this guy is good.. :yesmaster:

all theives have to die!! :shoot: :smoke:

wah tat's abit a old thread liao.. :towelcheer:

To some people this is an old thread but don't you know that
the issues are always current. It is good for newer or even older
members to want to contribute their experiences or findings regarding
the area of bike protection from bike thieves.

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Any person who uses a bike is always in a situation of being potential
greedy at times when he or she comes into context of temptation.
By learning and control of the self one may slowly get rid of this bad
behavior of stealing.

Cheers not necessary with a beer!
:cheers: