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Title: Want to try road biking
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neverquit - December 18, 2007 10:07 AM (GMT)
hello all!!

Im a cycling enthu and a very big one at that

ive been mountain biking for 2years now but got really excited and interested about being really fast

ive got speeds of around 32km-35km/h for normal riding on my DH bike on flat ground and much more for downhill

but of course .. road bikes have more speed dont they?!

so i want to try road biking but first i need to know

whats the diff between a road bike and a mountain bike?
in the styles of riding and the postures of how to sit on it

can some one please explain and THANK YOU ! (: :clap:

neverquit - December 18, 2007 10:09 AM (GMT)
ohyah i would also like to know

how much faster is a road bike compared to a MTB?

ocheemeng - December 18, 2007 12:43 PM (GMT)
helo pal..
for MTB bike is due to the heavy weight of the front susp n the knobbies that u r riding.
for roadie: the bike light due the shape n the crank that hv design(52teeths) n using carbon fork. n the wheels is much much more lighter n slim.
i think should be this way
if u r going constant speed of 32-35km on the mtb.u will be able to go 40km n above on ur roadie(constant)as the crank is much more bigger then ur mtb crank(48,the biggest)

ivantcs - December 18, 2007 03:19 PM (GMT)
http://www.wikipedia.org
search for road bike from that website and you will know what's the diff.

ivantcs - December 18, 2007 03:40 PM (GMT)
road bike have thinner tire so you can go faster. thicker tire have more friction with the floor so become slower.
road bike's biggest sprocket of the cassette is only 20+ teeth and mountain bike usually have more than that. but the smallest sprocket is still 11teeth, same as mountain bike.
geometry of the road bike and dh bike is also diff. dh bike will be more upright than a road bike.
most road bike uses dual pivot caliper brake. they don't use v brake as most of the brake/shifter lever are incompaitible with it. and they very seldom use disc brake as it is much heavier and expensive. dual pivot caliper brake are light, simple and work well enough for road bike.

ivantcs - December 18, 2007 03:43 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (ivantcs @ Dec 18 2007, 11:40 PM)
road bike have thinner tire so you can go faster. thicker tire have more friction with the floor so become slower.
road bike's biggest sprocket of the cassette is only 20+ teeth and mountain bike usually have more than that. but the smallest sprocket is still 11teeth, same as mountain bike.
geometry of the road bike and dh bike is also diff. dh bike will be more upright than a road bike.
most road bike uses dual pivot caliper brake. they don't use v brake as most of the brake/shifter lever are incompaitible with it. and they very seldom use disc brake as it is much heavier and expensive. dual pivot caliper brake are light, simple and work well enough for road bike.

sorry forget to say,
some road bike also use single pivot or center pull brake. but dual pivot are still better than them.

neverquit - December 18, 2007 06:12 PM (GMT)
i also like to add

I SUCK AT balancing
i wish to say that as
road bikes have those drop bars isnt it?
dat means i have to lean so low JUST TO HOLD MY DAMN HANDLES!?

NO WAY!
LOL

and this also means that im only suppose to ride on the road right
like it is ONLY appropriate to have a road biker on the road, isnt that kinda scary?
or is there a special trick to road handling? like any road biking rules that you all follow?

I heard some people doing off road terrain with a road bike, is that actually possible for newbies or is it for like the real hardcories ?

a 40km on a road bike, damn thats really too cool
please fill me in with all the questions i have

and also how does the amt of teeths on the chain affect anything?

Thanks alot :cheers:

neverquit - December 18, 2007 06:23 PM (GMT)
i also wana add
Are there road bikes without drop barS?

and road bikes are without suspension right, so generally they arent that comfy, could i put it that way? [ considering if i consider NOT cycling on the road unless i get safety tips that i would not get banged or bang a car at a 40km/h LOL]

ivantcs - December 19, 2007 03:12 AM (GMT)
more teeth on the crank will give you higher top speed
lesser teeth on the cassette give you higher top speed
you can use flat bar on a road bike also.
but will need diff shifter and brake lever. something like one from mountain bike
road bike that are used for off road terrain are cyclocross bike
can take abit of off road but not very rough type.
if you want to ride at 40km/h
not a gd idea to ride on pavement.
u can bang into someone or something anytime

neverquit - December 19, 2007 06:38 AM (GMT)
about the banging part
im good at swerving my ass around people [ ive practiced and had a practical LOL]

so i dont think the banging part would be as dangerous as the risks of the roads?

about the teeths= okay thanks for the nice and informative info pal :clap:


do you think one of you could follow me to east coast and try to teach me how to cycle properly on a road bike, u know rent those road bikes? haha

ivantcs - December 19, 2007 02:41 PM (GMT)
east coast got rent road bike??
i can ride there with you if i'm free
but i cant teach you cos i dun ride a road bike

trek8000 - December 19, 2007 04:58 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (neverquit @ Dec 19 2007, 02:38 PM)
about the banging part
im good at swerving my ass around people [ ive practiced and had a practical LOL]

so i dont think the banging part would be as dangerous as the risks of the roads?

about the teeths= okay thanks for the nice and informative info pal :clap:


do you think one of you could follow me to east coast and try to teach me how to cycle properly on a road bike, u know rent those road bikes? haha

Hey, when you do go to east coast and rent the road bikes to try it out, do call me along man. I too am considering getting a road bike but gotta try it out first.

trek8000 - December 19, 2007 05:01 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (trek8000 @ Dec 20 2007, 12:58 AM)
QUOTE (neverquit @ Dec 19 2007, 02:38 PM)
about the banging part
im good at swerving my ass around people [ ive practiced and had a practical LOL]

so i dont think the banging part would be as dangerous as the risks of the roads?

about the teeths= okay thanks for the nice and informative info pal  :clap:


do you think one of you could follow me to east coast and try to teach me how to cycle properly on a road bike, u know rent those road bikes? haha

Hey, when you do go to east coast and rent the road bikes to try it out, do call me along man. I too am considering getting a road bike but gotta try it out first.

Its not cheap though if i remember. $20 an hour. its buy 1 hour get 1 hour free. but the bike looks good. the same kind of entry level bike that is available at Rodalink. Nearly rented it that day but didnt have me tights on....

neverquit - December 20, 2007 01:50 AM (GMT)
hmmm must use tights ah?

im a fatty kid la no nice body to show LOL

Yah east coast got road bikes

WAH $20 PER 2 HOURS?!

sia la

like some super lan shop sia ... just that this time u really can fall if u want to

lol i tot ivantics was some super pro road rider to tell me all those :P but still pro for the info la huh.


i only scared i dono how to balance cos its so thin!!!

ocheemeng - December 20, 2007 05:36 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (neverquit @ Dec 20 2007, 09:50 AM)
hmmm must use tights ah?

im a fatty kid la no nice body to show LOL

Yah east coast got road bikes

WAH $20 PER 2 HOURS?!

sia la

like some super lan shop sia ... just that this time u really can fall if u want to

lol i tot ivantics was some super pro road rider to tell me all those :P but still pro for the info la huh.


i only scared i dono how to balance cos its so thin!!!

haha..never fear kid..
im aso a fatty *censored* but im riding a road bike wif my full jersey on when im onthe road..jus that humans will see in a way that u look like a alien only.hehe
dun worry..if u wan,i can let u play my racer for a while at east coast.if u want too..
racer is jus like any other normal bike mah..
cheers n face the world

neverquit - December 20, 2007 07:20 AM (GMT)
huh a RACER?!
!!!

Ill most prob wont even dare get on it

then a road bike also very high right i scared for my other brother leh!

ivantcs - December 20, 2007 12:22 PM (GMT)
usually u have to bend to reach the bar of the road bike
so maybe at first u will feel uncomfortable
but u will get used to it after awhile.
its easier to pedal with high seat
when the pedal is the furthest away from you or nearest to the ground
your leg should be almost straight. but not totally straight.

neverquit - December 21, 2007 05:21 AM (GMT)
actually i like the feel of dropbars but

is it possible to turn with the dropbars? u must lean right?

ivantcs - December 21, 2007 08:44 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (neverquit @ Dec 21 2007, 01:21 PM)
actually i like the feel of dropbars but

is it possible to turn with the dropbars? u must lean right?

turn with the drop bar means wat?
usually have to bend forward abit..

neverquit - December 21, 2007 10:56 AM (GMT)
like when u are holding the dropbars the dropped ones LOL

aND u need to turn .. how ah


actually i saw it for myself riding a road bike is not just easy but its sexy and attractive if u got a jersey and super cool sun glasses! haha!
a pity that i wear specs so im not sure how im suppose to wear those stuck on glasses? :P

ivantcs - December 21, 2007 01:44 PM (GMT)
user posted image

ivantcs - December 21, 2007 01:46 PM (GMT)
maybe u can try on ur mtb. shld be easier?
at some place which is very hard to corner
dun pedal. outer leg straight.
inner leg bend. so when turn right, left leg straight.
just like the photo

neverquit - December 22, 2007 03:44 AM (GMT)
but for me when i turn right, i usually peddle harder during turns so to exit the turn faster + sharper

Thats especially important for a DH bike isnt it cos the turning for DH's are usually pretty slackie

the last time i did that style [ beginner] i crashed + fell quite a few times! haha

and also i dont like to slow down for turns XD

ivantcs - December 22, 2007 08:53 AM (GMT)
then maybe you should stick to your own style.
i tink usually dh track got the berm for you to turn

neverquit - December 22, 2007 09:48 AM (GMT)
there isnt even a DH track in singapore or at least

there isnt even a track that can be considered DH in singapore -.^
oR is gangsa considered? bt i nvr go there before ..


hmm
yes yes my style my style..

ivantcs - December 22, 2007 11:09 AM (GMT)
your post above make me tot u go dh track.. haha

neverquit - December 22, 2007 11:33 AM (GMT)
haha!
no la
but i got go to a few wild slopes infronta my window, super cool

but of course those slopes wont be as good as gangsa

you know whats my dream

to be one of those super DH riders that are showed on youtube

dang!!!


wlkp - December 22, 2007 01:28 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (neverquit @ Dec 22 2007, 07:33 PM)
my dream to be one of those super DH riders that are showed on youtube

dang!!!

Sorry to interrupt. Pardon if I am ignorant about the initial "DH"

Does it stand for "Die Hard"?

All in my bike knowledge is Roadbike, MTB and BMX.
I don't know what is XC or DH bike, please kindly explain the
term "DH" to me. Don't laugh at this old man loh.

:pray: :lol: :lol:

neverquit - December 22, 2007 01:33 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (wlkp @ Dec 22 2007, 09:28 PM)
QUOTE (neverquit @ Dec 22 2007, 07:33 PM)
my dream to be one of those super DH riders that are showed on youtube

dang!!!

Sorry to interrupt. Pardon if I am ignorant about the initial "DH"

Does it stand for "Die Hard"?

All in my bike knowledge is Roadbike, MTB and BMX.
I don't know what is XC or DH bike, please kindly explain the
term "DH" to me. Don't laugh at this old man loh.

:pray: :lol: :lol:

DH stands for downhill
which means u ride down mountains thru the hardest and most roughest but most pleasurable way; has really thick frames for strength but also gives it a heavy weighttt to keep traction for the wheels cos i think the bike is meant to be flying most of the time [ if done the DH way]


XC stands for cross Country if im not wrong ..

usually and most of the time a hardtail but correct me if im wrong XD

ivantcs - December 22, 2007 02:17 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (neverquit @ Dec 22 2007, 07:33 PM)
haha!
no la
but i got go to a few wild slopes infronta my window, super cool

but of course those slopes wont be as good as gangsa

you know whats my dream

to be one of those super DH riders that are showed on youtube

dang!!!

then good luck for that.

ivantcs - December 22, 2007 02:18 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (wlkp @ Dec 22 2007, 09:28 PM)
QUOTE (neverquit @ Dec 22 2007, 07:33 PM)
my dream to be one of those super DH riders that are showed on youtube

dang!!!

Sorry to interrupt. Pardon if I am ignorant about the initial "DH"

Does it stand for "Die Hard"?

All in my bike knowledge is Roadbike, MTB and BMX.
I don't know what is XC or DH bike, please kindly explain the
term "DH" to me. Don't laugh at this old man loh.

:pray: :lol: :lol:

http://www.wikipedia.org
search for mountain bike and they will explain all diff types.

neverquit - December 22, 2007 02:24 PM (GMT)
haha thanks but

the closest inspiration that im going towards - road riding

im gona cycle at 65km/h and drive myself to school from changi to siglap!! [nah just kiddin id rather sleep]

but yeah the 65km/h :P

ivantcs - December 22, 2007 07:49 PM (GMT)
good luck again then.
your dh bike got put speedo one arh?

neverquit - December 23, 2007 03:03 AM (GMT)
yesh of course!
must always remind myself to keep the 30km/h + thing for cruising lol

ignaz - December 23, 2007 01:48 PM (GMT)
yah you want to be real fast.

Real fast, no extra cost, no need to change sitting position.

Take your DH bike and go cycle as fast as you can downhill at Mt. Faber or from Benjamin Shears Bridge.

Try to go faster than 60km/h at Faber and faster than 70km/h at Shears Bridge.

Don't worry about breaking the law. Just do it. You just want to experience the speed.

But gotta warn you that my friend was caught by police for for speeding faster than 50kmh at Faber on his full sus Trail bike.

Then once you get your motorcycle licence and get a sports bike. You can go and break the 300km/h mark on you bike somewhere at some deserted highway.

Don't try roadie riding. Got no suspension on it. It's actually more dangerous than MTB downhill racing.

neverquit - December 23, 2007 04:03 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (ignaz @ Dec 23 2007, 09:48 PM)
yah you want to be real fast.

Real fast, no extra cost, no need to change sitting position.

Take your DH bike and go cycle as fast as you can downhill at Mt. Faber or from Benjamin Shears Bridge.

Try to go faster than 60km/h at Faber and faster than 70km/h at Shears Bridge.

Don't worry about breaking the law. Just do it. You just want to experience the speed.

But gotta warn you that my friend was caught by police for for speeding faster than 50kmh at Faber on his full sus Trail bike.

Then once you get your motorcycle licence and get a sports bike. You can go and break the 300km/h mark on you bike somewhere at some deserted highway.

Don't try roadie riding. Got no suspension on it. It's actually more dangerous than MTB downhill racing.

Dood u sound like ur trying ur so hard and best to mock me man

LOL
but geting caught for speeding with a full trail sus?

ive tried with my 7gear bike, the max id hit is a 42km/h and can barely maintain cos it will keep droppin and goin up [ flat platform]

300km/h wit a bike? nah i dont really like motorbikes, id prefer it to be a porsche :P

road is for me to get from place to place la. haha

neverquit - December 23, 2007 04:05 PM (GMT)
and i meant 65km/h on a road bike :laughat: :lame:

ivantcs - December 24, 2007 05:55 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (ignaz @ Dec 23 2007, 09:48 PM)
Don't try roadie riding. Got no suspension on it. It's actually more dangerous than MTB downhill racing.

i don't think there's any need for suspension on road.
it does not make it safer with suspension also.
maybe when off road suspension absorb bumb and keep wheel on ground
but the road is just flat.

neverquit - December 25, 2007 05:32 AM (GMT)
but i just want to ask

is it illegal/ not appropriate for a road biker to cycle on the road when it is a tight one lane squeeze for each direction?

ivantcs - December 25, 2007 06:41 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (neverquit @ Dec 25 2007, 01:32 PM)
but i just want to ask

is it illegal/ not appropriate for a road biker to cycle on the road when it is a tight one lane squeeze for each direction?

it's not illegal to cycle on the side of the road. but you must follow the direction of the car.



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